Comments on: Behold Wii, and the Power of Vaporware… http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/industry-news/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html console gaming, pwned like a n00b Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:06:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: manchicken http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/industry-news/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-19 manchicken Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:06:46 +0000 http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/wii/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-19 Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that vaporware is wrong. I'm just saying that folks could be a little more transparent in their release dates. That's all. I'm used to how these things work, but for Xbox 360, the release dates are much better communicated in the marketing materials. Nintendo is the worst when it comes to communicating release dates. We don't even have an official release date for Smash Bros. yet... and we've been waiting for almost a year now. I don't feel greatly misled, I just feel like Nintendo could do better here. These are similar mistakes they made with the GameCube... particularly the long periods of time without any good new games. I just want to encourage Nintendo to do better. And Nintendo could have done a hell of a lot better with the Nintendo WiFi Connection stuff. Several excellent games (e.g. Madden 2007) could have been so much cooler with online play, but Nintendo was being stingy with the interfaces. Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that vaporware is wrong. I’m just saying that folks could be a little more transparent in their release dates. That’s all. I’m used to how these things work, but for Xbox 360, the release dates are much better communicated in the marketing materials. Nintendo is the worst when it comes to communicating release dates. We don’t even have an official release date for Smash Bros. yet… and we’ve been waiting for almost a year now.

I don’t feel greatly misled, I just feel like Nintendo could do better here. These are similar mistakes they made with the GameCube… particularly the long periods of time without any good new games. I just want to encourage Nintendo to do better.

And Nintendo could have done a hell of a lot better with the Nintendo WiFi Connection stuff. Several excellent games (e.g. Madden 2007) could have been so much cooler with online play, but Nintendo was being stingy with the interfaces.

]]> By: kungfooguru http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/industry-news/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-18 kungfooguru Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:26:21 +0000 http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/wii/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-18 Ok, all prototypes and demos mean the software is vaporware... All companies do this. I'm not saying that everyone doing it means that makes something ok. I'm saying that I don't see how people have not understood thats how it works yet... A console comes out, you get some decent games to play for the first year and then all the great stuff comes. I think its similar for most all releases, much like the Neuros OSD I bought. Next time a console comes out just wait a year to get it if you aren't used to how these things work. I guess the main difference is I just never felt misled. Maybe if I had paid more attention to the Nintendo media I would have, but I know that all these things are hype machines and to just lay low and let it flow. Ok, all prototypes and demos mean the software is vaporware…

All companies do this. I’m not saying that everyone doing it means that makes something ok. I’m saying that I don’t see how people have not understood thats how it works yet… A console comes out, you get some decent games to play for the first year and then all the great stuff comes. I think its similar for most all releases, much like the Neuros OSD I bought. Next time a console comes out just wait a year to get it if you aren’t used to how these things work.

I guess the main difference is I just never felt misled. Maybe if I had paid more attention to the Nintendo media I would have, but I know that all these things are hype machines and to just lay low and let it flow.

]]> By: manchicken http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/industry-news/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-17 manchicken Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:20:52 +0000 http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/wii/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-17 Sure, I'm glad the Wii came out, but Nintendo really could have done more to set expectations on the games that they used to make all of want one of these great systems in the first place. I know I'm not the only one who is disappointed that Nintendo is making us wait this long for titles that they started advertising at launch time. At the time that Nintendo advertised <em>Smash Bros.: Brawl</em>, it was vaporware. They didn't have any playable version of it. Everything you saw in those advertisements were videos that were used only for marketing purposes. How is that <strong>not</strong> vaporware? I dig my Wii as well, but Nintendo has not had a very good supply of fun games coming out on this system since January. Sure, I’m glad the Wii came out, but Nintendo really could have done more to set expectations on the games that they used to make all of want one of these great systems in the first place. I know I’m not the only one who is disappointed that Nintendo is making us wait this long for titles that they started advertising at launch time.

At the time that Nintendo advertised Smash Bros.: Brawl, it was vaporware. They didn’t have any playable version of it. Everything you saw in those advertisements were videos that were used only for marketing purposes. How is that not vaporware?

I dig my Wii as well, but Nintendo has not had a very good supply of fun games coming out on this system since January.

]]> By: kungfooguru http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/industry-news/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-16 kungfooguru Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:43:13 +0000 http://www.anyconsole.com/2007/08/wii/behold-wii-and-the-power-of-vaporware.html#comment-16 Using the term vaporware is... well... bullshit and a misuse of the word. Most all consoles take about a year before shit really gets going, right? Would you rather not have a Wii this whole time and have them wait, do extensive beta testing of Internet play(which they wouldn't find all the problems anyway), finish all the games that you want to play and then release?!? I sure as hell am glad I have my Wii already. If you only wanted those games you could have waited till they came out to buy your Wii. Of course they showed the games people want to play, that doesn't make them evil or make the games vaporware. Are you just trying to piss of Wii owners like you pissed of Ron Paul supports? :) Using the term vaporware is… well… bullshit and a misuse of the word.

Most all consoles take about a year before shit really gets going, right?

Would you rather not have a Wii this whole time and have them wait, do extensive beta testing of Internet play(which they wouldn’t find all the problems anyway), finish all the games that you want to play and then release?!? I sure as hell am glad I have my Wii already. If you only wanted those games you could have waited till they came out to buy your Wii. Of course they showed the games people want to play, that doesn’t make them evil or make the games vaporware.

Are you just trying to piss of Wii owners like you pissed of Ron Paul supports? :)

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